Degrees of Separation

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wow. you are almost famous! hehe :D
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I find it intriguing how we, as individuals in our own personal and private world, can brush with famous people and/or historic events from time to time, with such widely varying degrees of emotional responses or lessons learned (or lack there of) -- how some scenarios seem monumental and memorable and others seem like an ordinary day not worth thinking twice about.

I don't follow the Nobel Prize awards (past or present) too closely, but I do often wonder how and why they select some of the winners. Sometimes, when I hear of a particular winner, I feel they must have stretched their criteria just so they have a candidate -- at least concerning literature and peace/politics. Now I'm off to Wikipedia to learn more about the Nobel Prize and its winners (laureates). Thanks for the inspiration!
I hope this Ertl guy is more deserving than the recipient of the Peace Prize.
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I'm impressed that you got to meet Linus Pauling! How cool. Last year when I was at a blood banking conference, James Watson received an award but had a conflict so couldn't be there (I guess blood bankers aren't a very prestigious bunch). He gave a videotaped talk and one thing I remembered was how he talked about Pauling - apparently they were quite the rivals!

One of our blood bank pathologists likes to tell stories (and he's great at it). He tells of two BB pioneers (whose names escape me...Coombs and some other guy I think) who were doing the same work at the same time but were such bitter rivals that when they were both offered a share of the Nobel Prize in medicine, neither one would accept it because each refused to be onstage with the other. Can you imagine the egos??

Another funny one is when Karl Landsteiner won it in 1930 for the discovery of the A, B, and O blood types. He was informed that he'd been awarded the prize and didn't even tell his wife! She only found out because she happened to answer the phone when someone called to congratulate him. When she asked him why he never told her, he said, "Oh, it's no big deal." That's the other end of the "speckstrum."

enSue -- the discussion of who gets snubbed by the Nobel Committee is often more involved than actually picking the winners. People have been known to take out full page-ads in the NYT to state their case. The Nobel Committee though, has never amended or changed an award.

Its funny now, because there are bloggers who will handicap the chances of different people who are supposedly on the "short list". Its all incredibly political!

Hah!!! I had a whole sub-paragraph on that, but decided to stay on-topic... (and more-or-less light-hearted) ;)
Hey Mello -- the egos of these guys on "the short list" -- is amazing. They lobby for it, while all the while saying that it doesn't really matter. Like premier athletes, movie stars, etc. the upper echelons of science don't seem immune to people being prima donnas!
Maybe next year it will be you! And I will be blogging about how I kinda know you, but not in real-life and that I was going to meet you in SD last summer but then my car broke down.
It really is amusing (and pehaps sadly telling) that ego and celebrity come into play in the "upper echelons" of any community. I have to say I laughed at how you imitated Wuthrich....and I completely understand the honor of meeting Pauling. (Being a musician, I'd love to meet Beethoven...but it might be kinda creepy at this point.) But - come to think of it...I'd rather meet Beethoven in his current state than the recipient of the peace prize. :-)
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It would have been a great honor to meet Pauling. It always amazes me though when these brilliant people like Pauling and Crick, later in their life turn to stuff that is really quackery. It's like they abandon their ability to think scientifically and just go with what they want to be true despite lack of evidence or even in the face of contrary evidence.

I agree with Hannabanna, I want to someday be able to talk about my brush with fame with this guy Steve Betz, who I never really met but kinda did. Maybe I should come to SanDiego and visit before you become too famous!!!!

oh, thanks for letting me know, Steve. i've been meaning to look into who won for Chemistry this year, but hadn't gotten around to it.... o__O

definitely unacceptable that work is cutting into your blogging time.

Oh Hannahbanana --- are they teaching you to write comedy in that class of yours? Believe me -- I'm far from making "the short list", or the "the incredibly long list" for that matter!

sdede2 -- you make a really good point about scientific greats who in their later years go off on tangents that just seem nutso. I think it has something to do with two things -- one, is that there's a drive to "do something meaningful" later in life to match what they had accomplished earlier in life. And to do that, I think they're driven to go after "things no one has ever thought of before" -- and for good reason.

The second is that having won honor after honor (including the Nobel), they pretty much have free discretion to study and write about whatever they want, with little peer-review or oversight.

And don't worry -- when you make it to SD (or I make it to Michigan) you can guarantee that I won't be too famous. The Beloved thinks I'm more likely to be a world-famous blogger than scientist!

Well yeah it was your blogging fame that I was referring to, what were you thinking?...:)
I should've liked to meet Pauling too. Especially if he was smarter than Watson and Crick. Which may not be saying much, considering what Watson has been up to lately... but he sounds like a great person. In fact, I just realised that I am connected to him through just one degree of separation -- through you! =)
Congratulations Steve- in advance!
How funny that you posted this blog (even if I just read it). I have been trying to explain to my non-scientific family members why I was so eagerly anticipating the announcements! I am going to translate this blog to them tonight.

Now you can say that not only are you a famous blogger, but that your work has been translated!
Ouch! Though if you've seen my publishing record recently, maybe I should stick to blogging...

LC -- you know the more I thought about the Watson debacle (how coincidental to mention him a day before he says something so atrocious), the more annoyed I got.

Social scientists have been dis-crediting "intelligence" testing for the last two decades as biased and unreliable. And biologists now know that there is as much variation with in a "race" (as if that term actually has any meaning anymore) than between them. Utter bunk and horrible that he gets a global forum to spout it.

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